A Controversial Interview with Jim Duffy Part 2 of 3

This interview is the second part we had with super hot chile pepper grower, Jim Duffy. In this part Jim and I talk about the recent chile records in the UK with the Infinity and then the Naga Viper, the new breed of chiles. He explains in detail how the record is not what it seems, and that a certain famous book is behind one of the biggest cover ups in the chile world. The facts might startle you.

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Jim Duffy’s Refining Fire Chiles

20 thoughts on “A Controversial Interview with Jim Duffy Part 2 of 3

  • March 16, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Nice work guys! I heard this exact same audio over my phone a few weeks back, minus Buddah’s voice.

    As for me, I know Jim has Super hot Super tasty peppers. If someone eventually puts Guinness to the test and makes them back up their record, we will all probably get a laugh.

    I will be keeping my dollars in the domestic market, record or no. Zane & Zack’s will be using peppers from Refining Fire for a new line of sauces, I am hoping Jim will be able to keep up with demand.

  • March 16, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    I love the pick a little, talk a little… intro music from The Music Man. Very appropriate for this discussion.

    I don’t give much weight to the records either. I like my hot sauce sweet with heat, and if someone delivers that – and gives me flavor, great. Jolokia, Naga… I don’t care. Just make a good sauce.

    You can save the “Hottest Pepper in the World” for Guinness to figure out. I will never need that level of heat in a hot sauce.

    Thanks for the video interview with Jim Duffy.


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  • March 16, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I enjoyed the Naga Viper sauce, but it wasn’t as hot as the Trinidad Scorpion powder that I tried. I’d like to try some Naga Viper powder to compare it, but I don’t know if they will ever sell that.

  • March 16, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I think they are giving Jim the “run around” I have a variety of Trinidad Scorpion that I’ve been growing for 6 years this year, Jim has some of those seeds, how long does it take for a variety of pepper have to establish itself as stable?

  • March 16, 2011 at 11:26 pm


    Besides, even if I believed that for one minute the Naga Viper or Infinity Pepper was actually hotter. Where can I get seed or a plant from???

    No where!!!

    But, I can get seeds for the T. Scorpion from Jim ,David Stehnike, Candice Burns, Neil Smith, etc., etc. The list goes on.

    The Viper and/or the Infinity doesn’t exist to me. I haven’t seen nor tasted either one. I have tasted and seen the T. Scorp. Hell, I am growing them this year. Anyways, I shut up now.

  • March 16, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    One day that article will have T. Scorpion in it instead of the Bhut Jolokia. :winner:

  • March 16, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Thanks all of you for your support. I want to do things the right way. I am officially sending seeds to grow out 100+ plants of the following 4 varieties Trinidad Douglah, Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah, Trinidad Scorpion and Moruga Scorpion to Danise Coon of Chile Pepper Institute. Bosland’s people will grow these out at NMSU for field study and testing. At the same time Marlin Bensinger will be growing over 1,000 plants of each of these for study and testing with the Institute also checking our field in New Mexico. And about 20 miles from Marlin I am having 500 plants of Moruga grown which we will take samples. And finally I am growing in isolation these 4 varieties plus the following
    in San Diego Black Naga, 7 Pot Barrackapore Strian, 7 Pot Primo Strain, Sunrise Scorpion (pods grow upside down) and Brown Scorpion. I am trying my best to have a Horticulturist document all this years growing here in San Diego. Then will have pods tested by Marlin and Institute. So this 2011 project will be the most growing and gathering of data on Superhots ever. And I am proud to be part of it and I sincerely hope you people in the sauce industry will benefit from this and one day create more amazing products with more varieties.

  • March 17, 2011 at 1:21 am

    Your right Brian you may never need the level of heat of a Trinidad. Fact is you can make a great medium heat salsa or sauce with Trinidad varieties. You just use less of them. The heat is high on Trinidad varieties but the flavors are fantastic. For example Johnny’s Scorpion sauce is not ripping but so flavorful. Firehead Thomas made cookies with my Yellow 7 Pot at North Market that wowed everyone. And Sam, Tina, Scott and Deano had my salsa at dinner at FF Show and it was not ripping either but flavorful. So those that love flavor with medium heat can do wonders with these. And those that want an extract level sauce without extract will just use more. Nice hearing from you Brian hope we meet someday:)

  • March 17, 2011 at 2:37 am

    Hi Butch I do not know if my Scorpions from the last 3 years are from your seed source. But I am growing out seeds from someone this year that calls their seeds Butch T. So now I will be able to compare. It takes over 5 yrs to make a new stable variety and sometimes longer. As far as improving an existing variety you can do that by plant and pod selection only selecting best year after year from best plants and peppers. Farmers have been doing this since beginning of time.

  • March 17, 2011 at 6:53 am

    sounds like finger pointing going on here! :hungry:

  • March 17, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    SWEEET that sounds awesome good luck well you don’t need luck.When you are good.I’d love to dive in all those new rare types listed sounds TASTY!!

  • March 17, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    My Naga Viper was bitter and not really good.Buddah tried mine it was totally different than his.It took me months to get mine and I was very let down.It seemed like they threw something to gether to ship to me since I was threatening a refund.I also don’t like if its supposed to be so called hottest chile .Why did they put Bhut in with it instead of just a Naga viper .Maybe that Naga is weaker and they boost it with a real proven pepper.I call BS on this all the way.They should prove what they are claiming without respect it will fade quickly.Yes it will be a novelty for all uninformed.Then the people like us that really know how it really is which is the majority of consumers will know it’s bogus and not believe their hype and buy such crap.I am stickin with people like Jim and other respectable businesses that are honest and have good products!! :_thumbsup:

  • March 17, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Mine was the same as Buddah’s, it was really thin. There’s a guy on thehotpepper that made some sauce from the 7 Pot Douglah. I am one of the testers. I can’t wait to try it. From the reviews so far it sounds hotter than the Naga Viper.

  • March 17, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    I am honored to have the Machine be a friend and a supporter. Why use lab equipment to test when we have the MACHINE :_onfire:

  • March 17, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Wow. I wish you could sell powders of all those different peppers. Superhot powders are so hard to find, and they are often mixed together. I’d love to be able to have a shaker of each different 7 Pot.

  • March 17, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    I am growing a lot this year so I will try and help you with that goal Jen. Just contact me.

  • March 17, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Thanks so much. I will definitely be buying these from you. Just please let me know what month you will have them. I’m really looking forward to it.

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